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[LangRef] Clarify the semantics of the `byval` attribute
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Authored by jdoerfert on May 8 2020, 10:48 AM.

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After the discussion in D79454 it seemed clear we need to clarify the
byval attribute semantics. This is an attempt to make it consistent
with the de-facto behavior and expectations of different LLVM passes.

The clarified rules are phrased such that:

  • an empty function with a byval argument is correctly classified as readnone (which it is today: https://godbolt.org/z/nePXM6).
  • a call of a readnone function with a byval argument is not classified as readnone (which it is today: https://godbolt.org/z/dDfQ5r)
  • we can eliminate the Clang rules that prevent the effect of pure or const on functions that take a byval argument (as they are circumvented by the middle-end anyway)

I doubt this will break existing backends or other parts but actually
avoid us creating (temporary) broken IR during the middle-end
optimizations.

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efriedma added inline comments.May 8 2020, 11:29 AM
llvm/docs/LangRef.rst
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"Attributes on the call site argument and function argument are associated with the original and copied memory respectively"

This seems to fly in the face of existing practice, which is that function attributes are copied to each callsite. I'd strongly prefer to keep the meaning of the attributes consistent, even if it leads to a weird result like writing to an argument marked "readonly".

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"wrtie "

rnk added a comment.May 9 2020, 8:18 AM

Some copy editing comments, but I agree with the semantics: From the IR perspective, it is better to think of argument stack memory as belonging to the callee. A byval argument has more in common with a local static alloca than a passed in pointer.

llvm/docs/LangRef.rst
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Missing period? "scalars The copy"

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typo "memmory"

jdoerfert updated this revision to Diff 263024.May 9 2020, 10:01 AM
jdoerfert marked 3 inline comments as done.

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"Attributes on the call site argument and function argument are associated with the original and copied memory respectively"

This seems to fly in the face of existing practice, which is that function attributes are copied to each callsite. I'd strongly prefer to keep the meaning of the attributes consistent, even if it leads to a weird result like writing to an argument marked "readonly".

First, this doesn't break with the practice that argument attributes are copied/applied to each call site, byval is still present at both the call site argument and the argument. It does state however that the pointer of the attribute is pointing to something different for the call site argument and for the argument. That is no different to the current semantic, as far as I can tell, just spelled out. Do you object to say that the call site argument and the argument point to distinct memory locations or something else?

jdoerfert updated this revision to Diff 263026.May 9 2020, 10:38 AM

Minor wording tweak

Do you object to say that the call site argument and the argument point to distinct memory locations or something else?

Like I said, my issue is with the "Attributes on the call site argument and function argument are associated with the original and copied memory respectively". I assume this means "attributes other than byval". If I'm understanding this correctly, this means it isn't legal to copy attributes from the caller to the callee. If an argument is marked "readnone byval" on a function, it's illegal to copy that "readnone" to the callsite, because the readnone would then be associated with the original memory, not the copied memory. Or, a more silly example, say you had "byval returned" on the called function, and that got copied to the callsite: that clearly can't mean the original pointer is returned by the function.

aqjune added a subscriber: aqjune.May 9 2020, 2:04 PM

I have a minor question:

a call of a readnone function with a byval argument is not classified as readnone (which it is today: https://godbolt.org/z/dDfQ5r)

%0 at caller has readnone attribute - is it related with the propagation of readnone attribute from %0 of empty function to the caller?
Some comments above seems to be related with this question, but I rather wonder about the validity of the propagation of readnone in this example.

Actually I wonder whether things will become clearer if an alloca-and-copy (or something that is equivalent with this) is explicitly used to show the behavior of pass-as-value rather than byval implicitly encoding the behavior; my impression is that byval is different from other attributes like readnone or nonnull, because it isn't the result of value analysis. This will be a lot of work though...

arsenm added inline comments.May 9 2020, 3:57 PM
llvm/docs/LangRef.rst
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Should this also specify the meaning of readonly/readnone as a callee side parameter attribute? is it disallowed to write to a readonly byval argument?

Do you object to say that the call site argument and the argument point to distinct memory locations or something else?

Like I said, my issue is with the "Attributes on the call site argument and function argument are associated with the original and copied memory respectively". I assume this means "attributes other than byval".

Yes. byval applies to both.

If I'm understanding this correctly, this means it isn't legal to copy attributes from the caller to the callee.

Correct. It is not legal to do that now either, see below, but we just don't say so. TBH, I have not heard a proposal in which it would be legal but the copy would still happen implicitly (somewhere).

If an argument is marked "readnone byval" on a function, it's illegal to copy that "readnone" to the callsite, because the readnone would then be associated with the original memory, not the copied memory.

Right. That is what I think needs to be the semantics.

Or, a more silly example, say you had "byval returned" on the called function, and that got copied to the callsite: that clearly can't mean the original pointer is returned by the function.

I think byval returned example shows nicely that we cannot copy the attributes, right?

@efriedma I'm a bit confused. Could you propose some wording so I get a feeling where you want to go?

I have a minor question:

a call of a readnone function with a byval argument is not classified as readnone (which it is today: https://godbolt.org/z/dDfQ5r)

%0 at caller has readnone attribute - is it related with the propagation of readnone attribute from %0 of empty function to the caller?
Some comments above seems to be related with this question, but I rather wonder about the validity of the propagation of readnone in this example.

The propagation in this example is *not* valid. This patch makes this clear (I hope).

Actually I wonder whether things will become clearer if an alloca-and-copy (or something that is equivalent with this) is explicitly used to show the behavior of pass-as-value rather than byval implicitly encoding the behavior; my impression is that byval is different from other attributes like readnone or nonnull, because it isn't the result of value analysis. This will be a lot of work though...

You are not wrong. Making it explicit would actually help us. I am in favor. Nonetheless, we currently seem to have no clear semantics on what byval means and how it interacts with other attributes. Clang strips __attribute__((pure)) if byval arguments are present but functionattrs will just add it again. More generally, this does currently not work:

for (Instruction *I : instructions(Fn))
  MayReadOrWrite |= I->mayReadOrWriteMemory();

if a call takes a byval argument.

Long story short, I would prefer this change to make the current behavior consistent and then a transition away from byval to some explicit copy model.

jdoerfert marked an inline comment as done.May 9 2020, 4:27 PM
jdoerfert added inline comments.
llvm/docs/LangRef.rst
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Should this also specify the meaning of readonly/readnone as a callee side parameter attribute?

I thought by specifying what memory the call site and argument pointer refer to, the readonly/readnone (and other attributes) fall in line. They apply to the respective memory.

is it disallowed to write to a readonly byval argument?

Writing *any* readonly argument is UB, I mean the store instruction causes UB.

@efriedma I'm a bit confused. Could you propose some wording so I get a feeling where you want to go?

Depending on which direction we go, either:

  • "Attributes on a function or callsite describe the behavior of the callee excluding the implied copy. For example, an optimization can infer readnone on a a byval argument if the callee does not access the copied memory."
  • "Attributes on a function or callsite describe the behavior of a call including the implied copy. For example, an optimization can never infer readnone on a call with a byval argument readnone because the implied copy reads memory. byval implies nocapture: there isn't any way to retrieve the original address in the callee."

I don't really care which we choose, we can easily model it either way. But I think we need to choose one or the other. Making attributes describe different things on each side of the call is much worse than either of those alternatives; it confuses what it means for a function or callsite to have an attribute.

@efriedma I'm a bit confused. Could you propose some wording so I get a feeling where you want to go?

Depending on which direction we go, either:

  • "Attributes on a function or callsite describe the behavior of the callee excluding the implied copy. For example, an optimization can infer readnone on a a byval argument if the callee does not access the copied memory."
  • "Attributes on a function or callsite describe the behavior of a call including the implied copy. For example, an optimization can never infer readnone on a call with a byval argument readnone because the implied copy reads memory. byval implies nocapture: there isn't any way to retrieve the original address in the callee."

I don't really care which we choose, we can easily model it either way. But I think we need to choose one or the other. Making attributes describe different things on each side of the call is much worse than either of those alternatives; it confuses what it means for a function or callsite to have an attribute.

I think this helped. Thanks. I also understand your concerns now.

Given the choice between the two, I vote for the second:
Pros:

  • There is a place the read is attributed to, thus no need for D79454.
  • The byval -> nocapture step at the call site can be useful (done already by the Attributor).
  • It also is probably important to have byval -> noalias in the callee.

Cons:

  • You don't get byval -> readonly at the call site anymore (done by the Attributor).
  • Alignment at the call site might be higher than of the copy, breaking with the idea that the call site and callee "properties" match. Though, the attributes can probably be kept in sync if we teach the relevant parts.

Sure, I'm happy with the second option.

Alignment at the call site might be higher than of the copy, breaking with the idea that the call site and callee "properties" match. Though, the attributes can probably be kept in sync if we teach the relevant parts.

The meaning of the "align" attribute with byval is weird from any perspective: it specifies both the alignment of the allocation, and the required alignment of the input. It would be nice to separate those at some point. (That would probably mean something like byval(<ty>, <align>) to specify the alignment of the copied memory, and then the align attribute would just specify the alignment of the input, like it does for other calls.)

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This review seems to be stuck/dead, consider abandoning if no longer relevant.

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